Episode 39: Racial Integrity.

This week Ann, Becky, and Dan are joined by a whole slew of guests, including some of our highly regarded #PodernFamily/#PodsInColor peers to discuss interracial relationships.

(0:00) Behind the Scenes.
We included part of our pre-show roll, which would normally be edited out, because of how silly it sounded.

(0:48) Introduction.

(3:18) The Loving’s Story.
We recap the police raid, arrest, and subsequent sentencing of Richard and Mildred Loving. The Lovings plead guilty to “cohabiting as man and wife, against the peace and dignity of the Commonwealth,” for violating Virginia’s Racial Integrity Act by being in an interracial marriage. They were sentenced to 1 year in prison, or to be banned from the state of Virginia for 25 years. They chose to leave the state and moved to Washington DC. The Lovings attempted to vacate the sentence which proved unsuccessful. With the help of ACLU lawyers the Lovings were able to get their case in front of the United States Supreme Court, which ruled in their favor. This ruling ended anti-miscegenation laws in 16 states in 1967. After 1967 interracial couples were allowed to marry, legally.

(12:02) The Survey.
We wanted to gauge how people felt about interracial relationships in 2018 so we asked 13 people of varying ethnicities and genders the exact same set of 8 questions. We attempted to not deviate from the predetermined questions or interact in order to avoid influencing the answers; there were some exceptions. What we learned was that though interracial dating is widely accepted, not everyone is as accepting as we thought, though many were.

The questions we asked everyone are as follows:

  1. When you hear the term Racial Integrity, what comes to mind?
  2. When you hear the word interracial, what is the first thing that comes to mind?
  3. Do you agree with interracial dating/relationships? Why or why not?
    3a. If one party is multiracial, does that change anything?
  4. Have you ever been in an interracial relationship?
    4a. If yes, is or was the experience noticeably different than a relationship with someone of the same race? (elaborate)
    4b. If no, is it by choice?
  5. Do you think people dating outside of their race would benefit by expanding their cultural understanding and fluency? Or do you think it’d have an opposite effect (e.g. black folks trying to be less “ethnic”)?
  6. If you were to bring someone from another race “home,” what would your family’s reaction be? Would there be whispers? If so, what would they be?
    6a. What would your reaction be if your son or daughter brought home someone of another race?
  7. What do you think about black folks being called “sellouts?” (for dating outside of their race)
  8. Any other thoughts?

(12:25) Survey: Afro-Becky
(16:14) Survey: Just Ann
(24:30) Survey: Dan

(34:22) The One Drop Rule.
In response to Dan mentioning struggling with his identity and ethnicity as a biracial child, he shares a memory when he was taking a standardized test and didn’t know which ethnicity to select. His teacher told him that if he had “one drop” of Black blood, he was Black. Ann believes the one drop rule only applies to Black people in America. One drop of Chinese blood doesn’t make your Chinese, one drop of German blood doesn’t make you German, etc…

(37:14) Surveying our Guests and Fellow Podcasters.
(37:36) Survey: Nikki
(42:36) Survey: Model E from E and Friends Podcast (@EricaJonez)
(46:50) Survey: Maddie
(53:58) Survey: CJ from The Awakened Soul Podcast (@CEOHaize) (@AwakenedSoulPod)
(62:27) Survey: Name Redacted to avoid potential abuse.
(75:05) Survey: Ty
(82:16) Survey: Paul and Diane (interracial couple)
(88:00) Survey: Jayden of the Unapologetik Podcast (@TheGreatJayden) (@UnapologetikPod)

(92:21) Shout Outs!

(93:30) Ask an Attorney
Lucky in Cali
I’m 1 of 3 shift managers at my company and the other 2 shift managers were hired after me but make $2.20 more per hour than I do. They’re both males and our job responsibilities and hours are identical. My company frowns on employees discussing pay and I don’t really want to go to management because it may result in one or all of us losing our jobs for an “unrelated” reason. Is there anything I can do? How could I prove that our pay is based on our genders?

(98:51) AJ’s Mission.
Dan notifies Afro-Becky that AJ of the What We Gone Do Podcast (@WhatWeGoneDo) is on a mission to find out Becky’s identity.